Dealing with the H1N1 issue while pregnant
For me, germ paranoia started when I was trying to get pregnant with my 14 month old daughter.
I didn't want to get sick because it can effect your cycle and I was doing the whole she-bang. Charting, BBT, keeping notes on everything, taking certain vitamins, I was on Clomid for a while, I bought a computerized fertility program. We were REALLY wanting to get pregnant![]()
So, I was very cautious about things like not being around anyone sick, hand washing, etc.
Then I got pregnant and it was a dream come true. It was too good to be true, we were just beyond excited and thankful and blessed
I wanted to do anything I could to protect myself and baby thoughout the next 9 months.
So then I stayed very cautious about germs because I didn't want to get sick while pregnant, epsecially when knowing what effect a woman's body temperature can have on the baby and the overall outcome of the pregnancy.
Then, thank God in heaven, He blessed us with a healthy baby girl, 3 weeks earlier than her due date. I won't go into it, but long story short, we had to take her to a children's hospital 3 days after she was born because we discovered that her body temperature was too low.
Come to find out, she was perfectly fine and we were back home within 2 days (THANK YOU GOD) she was just preterm and sometimes preterm babies have trouble regulating their own body temperatures.
But, while we were at the hospital, you had to wash your hands for a full 20 seconds every time you came into the room and the doctors were telling us how important hand washing was because of staph infections, viruses, just all kinds of things that pass all around.
That whole experience was enough to make me even more paranoid. I made a decision and wouldn't let anyone around us for 6 weeks, until she was older and stronger. I just would NOT risk someone carrying something unknowingly and accidentally exposing it to my daughter.
So time passes, she's as healthy as a horse, we're all very healthy, but I'm still obsessively washing my hands and yelling at my husband when he so much as looks at her without washing his hands first.
More time passes, we're all still healthy and I'm hanging out with a friend of mine who has a daughter 3 months younger than my baby girl. My friend's letting her play all over the floor, with her keys, with whatever she puts her hands on, my friend isn't washing her and her daughter's hands after any of this and there they both are, prefectly fine and healthy and happy.
So it's good for me to see this. I can feel myself actually relaxing a little. I think, "That little girl is even younger than mine and she's doing all this stuff and is fine!"
I start to stop myself from washing my hands after every single thing I touch before I touch her or something she will touch. I stop using the sanitizers on every single thing. I tell myself over and over again, "It is good to be exposed to germs. It is good to build antibodies. It is healthy for her to have exposure to all these things." and I'm actually getting better.
Then, praise God in heaven! In shock, I discover I'm 2 months pregnant when my daughter is 11 months old.![]()
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I'm in disbelief. Again, it's too good to be true. We're blessed with a 2nd baby and this time we weren't even trying?!? I thought for sure that we'd have to try for a while like before, if we were even blessed at all again. I'm still staring at my daughter in disbelief that God blessed me with her, and here we are, expecting another?!?
Then I start getting a bunch of questions from friends and family asking me what I was going to do about the H1N1. I'm not even really aware of what they're talking about. One of my friends sends me some information about it and pregnant women, along with some information about how fast it's spreading in our area of the nation.
So. Much. For. Relaxing.
After reading about the FACTS (yes, they are facts, not a germaphobe's paranoia, but actual things that can happen to pregnant women and the baby if exposed) and then learning that where we live, the virus is widespread and spreading fast, I am not as relaxed anymore.
Every 3rd person I'd talk to on the phone knew someone who was just diagnosed with it. My brother was exposed. My sister's best friend. It's too close to home.
And it's not just me because of my unborn baby. It's exposure to my daughter as well. Small children can be hit hard. And if my daughter were to get this virus, there is no way in the world that I would not be with her. I would most definitely become exposed and then there we'd all be.
So then there's the vaccine. Easy solution, right? No. The more I read and the more people I talk to, the more I don't know what to do about it.
This vaccine is new. It contains things that I don't know are safe for the growing baby. The pregnant women who will be getting it are the first ones ever to get it. There haven't been studies on pregnant women who've been given this vaccine, they ARE the study. Do I want my baby to be one of the trial babies? Of course not. Are they saying it's safe for us? Yes. Can they assure us there will be absolutely no harm in getting it? No. Are they saying it's basically the same thing as the seasonal flu vaccine that's been around for years and years? Yes......but they're saying "basically". They're also saying it "should be fine".
"Basically" and "Should be".
Not words that make me feel very safe. They're good enough for me. But the alternative is to be exposed and possibly have a miscarriage and die.
But the arguement is all for not because the vaccine isn't even available. Even if we all wanted to get it, we couldn't.
So, my daughter and I aren't getting around anyone until this vaccine is available in our area (they think it will be in a couple more weeks). All kinds of flus are literally all around us right now where we live and it would be certain exposure to something if we went out and socialized.
I've heard people say, in other forums to other people who are nervous about these things that "it's just unavoidable" and that they just have to live their life, etc. but ost of those people aren't pregnant. They don't have to worry about protecting a baby they are carrying.
I KNOW that relaxing and letting the chips fall where they may would be what people would recommend, but there hasn't been one thing I've read about all of this that is making me feel less paranoid about it. I'm in a position where I actually can stay away from the public, being a stay at home mom. My husband goes to work and back, takes a shower when he gets home, washes his hands repeatedly and stays as cautious as possible. Even though he could be some exposure, it's less than if we were out and about or if I were working or my daughter in a play group or daycare, so it's more limited at least. It's the best we can do.
So here are my questions. If you are pregnant right now, what are you doing to keep calm? Are you going out and about like usual? Do you wash your hands more? Are you getting the vaccine? If you are, are you worried about the unknown effects it could have on your baby? What did you hear or read that made you decide to get it?
Anything anyone would like to comment or add would be great. Thanks for reading and I hope you all stay very very happy and healthy![]()
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I have read the same stuff as you and many others. They say preg. women have a 6% higher chance of catching the swine flu than a normal person because thir immune systems are all ready compromised. Also, have you read about Aubrey opdyke? She was a pregnant mom from florida and she got the swine at 6mo preg. you should google her name. Well, sorry I couldn't be of more help im dealing with the same issue right now. Im not preg. but want to be but the swine flu has made me stop and think I shouldn't ttc right now. Good luck with what ever you decide and congrats on your baby! :)
Yes, sadly there have been other women like Aubrey Opdyke, but they died.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi there,
As you know, I'm pregnant too. I think I kind of tend not to be too big of a worrier anyway (although I have my moments...and I actually think I've "trained" myself over the years to worry less because it used to be a lot worse). I tend to tell myself that, as long as I am taking all the suggested precautions, I am doing my best and from there it is out of my hands. If I do get sick, I will get the medical care I need asap and take it seriously, and because of that would be more likely to have a quick recovery. Keeping ourselves informed is important, but avoid excessive reading or news-watching when you are feeling anxious about this stuff! Try to get your mind on other things, like finding a crib set for the nursery. :)
And I always wash my hands a lot, with warm if not hot water, and I do try to rub for 20 seconds like doctors suggest (althought it's not possible to do this every time...so I make sure to do it several times a day, like after I get home from picking up my daughter at preschool! If I'm around anyone sick, I disinfect door handles, phones, etc. And I'm trying to be cautious of touching my face -- that's how the germs spread from our hands to our noses and mouths, and thus how we get sick.
I've recently read that it can't hurt to drink warm liquids every day (I've been drinking a combo of peppermint and ginger tea which also keeps any nausea at bay. And if you want to take one extra step, a wash of your nasal cavities with warm saline water is supposed to help (I think you would use a Neti pot for that...I'm considering getting one).
Hope this helps!
Patti
SAHM in SoCal and administrator of the Sleep Forum group, http://www.mothersclick.com/group/sleep-forum and Tri-Counties Moms, http://www.mothersclick.com/moms-club/tri-counties-moms-sb-ventura-slo-c...
You are right on the money (as usual!), Patti!
I love your advice about getting your mind on things like searching for a crib set for the nursery
That kind of thing is one of the few things I can do to keep myself from spiraling into an OCD version of Alice in Wonderland falling down the germaphobic rabbit hole (which I so easily easily do these days).
People say, "try not to obsess" but that does me absolutely no good. In fact, it's kind of annoying when they don't understand my level of concern. It's easy for people to say that, but saying something like concentrating on things for the baby does always make me calm down and I just "ohhh and ahhh" over sweet little baby things-it's easy to get lost in the sea of baby products these days-what FUN we get to have with all of the wonderful inventions and beautiful things!
It's so funny that you mention the Neti Pot because my husband and I bought 2 of them a few weeks ago and have been trying to keep clean internally as well as externally
I LOVE the Neti Pot (it reminds me so much of summer vacations we took when I was growing up because we were always swimming somewhere and when water would accidentally go up my nose, it has the same feeling as the Neti Pot gives you after you're finished with it, except with this little pot, it feels good!), but my husband could take it or leave it. He doesn't like the sensation as much as I do
Originally, I wanted one because of these headaches I keep getting and I read that these pots can help with clearing your sinuses, if that's what is causing the headaches. I don't know if it's the pregnancy or the weather or both, but I wanted to try it!
Then, I friend sent an email saying that doctor's strongly encourage use of the Neti Pot (or any that clean out the nasal passage) to stay healthy during this cold and flu season because when you breathe in germs (if someone coughs near you/sneeze, you rub your face, etc) get into the passage, they sit for 2 to 3 days before your body becomes infected with whatever germ is harboring in your nasal passage.
But, when you clean out the passage with a saltwater solution, recommended twice daily, those germs don't have time to fester up in there and "plant" themselves in your body, so to speak. You're washing them out!
It makes sense, doesn't it?
Another little tip I have heard about is putting Neosporin up your nose (I know!) before you go out and get around others. The antibiotic doesn't let germs settle in up there. I have a friend who swears she stopped getting sick from taking trips in airplanes after she started doing this.
I look at these things like, "It can't hurt!" (although I would check with your OB if you're pregnant before using Neosporin up the nose because I'm not sure about the ingredients).
Thank you so much for your thoughts and I really appreciate the great advice!!! I always love your posts
Glad I could help!
(And thanks...I always love your posts too.
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I am definitely going to pick up a Neti pot to try. I've been thinking about it for awhile now and with all this stuff in the news and everything, it just seems like a good precaution, especially if, like me, you already have issues with sinus and allergies. I think I had heard about that Neosporin in the nose things somewhere else, and I bet it does work. Yep, I'd probably check with the OB first though.
It's funny, ever since this post, I've been noticing that every time I read the words "H1NI" or "Swine Flu" I have this overwhelming urge to wash my hands. Argh!!! I think all the news and everything tends to feed our paranoia, sadly.
Patti
SAHM in SoCal and administrator of the Sleep Forum group, http://www.mothersclick.com/group/sleep-forum and Tri-Counties Moms, http://www.mothersclick.com/moms-club/tri-counties-moms-sb-ventura-slo-c...
Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about when getting the overwhelming urge to wash your hands-I do the same thing when I read/hear about/talk about anything that involves sickness!!
When I was talking to a friend who was describing how hard she was hit with sickness, practically couldn't get out of bed for a week and nothing she took would take her fever down, I think I washed my hands 5 times during our conversation! Like the germs could somehow make it through the phone lines!!!
It's just scary. And I agree, watching the News and reading everything is feeding our paranoia, BIG time, but I look at that like this: the more paranoid the media is making us, the better! People will be more conscientious with hand washing, exposing others, vaccinating, everything! So, maybe the more worried people are, the less it will spread (I hope!!)
And I do hope you try to Neti Pot! I just love mine
It really does make me feel clean from the inside out and I do wonder if it's what has contriuted to my having less headaches! I don't know if it's that or that maybe I'm getting used to the weather change, the season or my hormones, but I know it couldn't have hurt!
Conscientious
Wow, you share all my fears as well!! It's comforting to know we all seem to be in the same boat....even if it is a little scary! I'm on the fence about getting the shot........I had a bad reaction to an MMR booster when I was 18 and ended up in the hospital for 2 days and have never had a regular flu shot. My son is 2 and I'm worried about him being exposed...mainly by my husband who works in the city. I stay at home and I'm trying not to go out much. My mom watches my son if I need to go out. I plan on wearing a mask tomorrow when I go out. I am nervous about what people will think....but they should keep their distance right?? Swine flu is around here like crazy......EVERYWHERE...... There are no shots around either, so I really can't "worry" about something that's not available right now.
ALSO, I studied the CDC's website and the NIH's research on the H1N1 vaccination for pregnant women. The (short) trial that they started was only for women 14 wks.and up.......AND the shot they gave them contains NO preservative (mercury). SO........I ask myself, why are they telling women at all stages of pregnancy to get this?? I'm 9 wks pregnant and wondering why there are so many discrepancies in what we are being told. I was also told by an EMS worker (My dad got the vaccination as he is an EMT/firefighter) that they cannot get the Flu Mist because it's the weakened live virus and they could expose their patients to that..........I have not seen/heard anything in the mainstream media about this.......so I wondered.......pregnant women are not allowed to get the flu Mist, I know.........BUT.......I called my OBGYN today and she said that no one in my household (hubby or son) should get the Flu Mist because it could expose me to the live virus. Good to know, eh? Ask your doc if you haven't already............
Oh..............I'm totally sanitizing all the time and washing my hands etc. So I say keep up your sanitizing and don't worry about being OCD.....If it keeps your family healthier for this time in our lives then go for it!!
Oh, I'm so glad you posted!
First of all, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! 9 weeks along!!!
I too like to hear that I'm not alone with my concerns. It makes me feel less alone in this. I wish we didn't have to be so scared
but it simply is just scary.
I absolutely would wear your mask if that's what you want to do and wouldn't give two bits about what anyone thinks when seeing you. Look at it this way, even if you get looks, they won't be able to see your face, so you're anonymous!
And here's the thing: WE ARE PREGNANT. We have got to be more conscientious about these things for the potential sake of our and our baby's LIVES. We're not being paranoid, we're trying to be safe and carry our babies through to a healthy term and deliver them into our families
This won't last forever. There are only 9 months in a pregnancy, and it's a short time compared to our whole lives. And as time goes on, we'll know more about the vaccine, we'll hear about more studies, more information in general, so we just have to be patient and as safe as we are able to be.
Let people roll their eyes or make comments or whatever, you know?
But honestly, if I saw someone out and about wearing one, I'd think, "I should be doing that". I bet that is what goes through their minds when they see your mask. You might even infuence others to do the same!
In fact, I've just decided that if wind up not getting the vaccine and decide to go out somewhere, I am going to wear one. Think about if you were standing next to someone in a line or something and they coughed right next to you. Or they sneezed. Or for that matter, just anyone in the same room as you coughed (I read something about how much distance a cough can travel, but can't remember). That goes right into your nasal passage. I would feel MUCH better if that happened and I was wearing a mask.
I imagine myself, my husband and little girl with a new baby next year and when I do that, I don't worry about what other people think. It's the safest choice for your family.
As for the vaccine, I did know that pregnant women should not get the mist and the ones around them should not either because of the possibilty of exposing them to that live virus, but as for the mercury content and all the other "stuff" that could be in it, I don't know what's going on
Which is exactly why it makes it scary to us pregnant women!
I did get the seasonal flu vaccine (preservative free) at my 16 week checkup because I know that it has been around for years and pregnant women have been getting it for a long time, plus my doctor highly recommended it and she's not the type who pushes anything on you and is not an OB who worries about many things. So, a very strong recommendation coming from her was something I wouldn't ignore for my and the baby's safety.
As for the H1N1 vaccine, we haven't really discussed it because it's not available to her patients yet, so to me, it's a "we'll cross that bridge when we get to it" subject in my eyes. I was like that about labor with my first pregnancy because I thought, "It's going to happen, it's inevidable, but I'm not going to go insane with questions of every kind when it's so far away.....I'm just going to block it out and concentrate on what's going on now"
Ruralgirl, I think you are being very smart and very responsible with your health for your child and unborn little one. I pray God keep us all safe and healthy
Thanks so much for your kind words, PolkadotBunnies!! It's nice to know we are not alone. I also find it annoying that the media talks about only "1 in 4 pregnant women plan on getting the H1N1 vaccine".....they they talk to an OBGYN and they seem to think us pregnant women are worried about getting flu from the vaccine, when in reality.....we are worried about what this new vaccine may do to our babies in utero OR once they are born and a little older. I'm sooooo on the fence about what to do......there are so many what-if's!! I imagine, in about 3-5 yrs. a study will come out saying ,"pregnant women who got the H1N1 vaccine in 2009 are 10 times more likely to have a child with _______ (<---insert disorder here). Arrrggghhh
On a lighter note --- My mission to town with a mask was successful today!! I went to Target, Tuesday morning (not sure if anyone's familiar with that store....discount stuff), and Kroger for groceries. As soon as I walked in Target, I think my ears were on High Alert and I noticed people coughing....not close, but close enough, that I didn't go in their direction! haha.....then I think I had every isle to myself. I was nervous at first, but then once a heard a few other people cough and a sneeze every now and then, I felt relieved that I had it on.....assuming it is actually protecting me! haha..........then I told the woman at check out I was preggo, etc......and she looked relieved! :) Then at Tuesday Morning, the cashier was funny, she asked "You got the swine flu or just protecting yourself?" She thought it was great since I was pregnant to cover up and stay away from all the walking germs!! She said she would do the same thing and wasn't planning on getting the vaccine for her kids. Next I was off to Kroger. Again, not too bad.....I got a few looks, but nothing crazy. One employee said we should just all dress up as doctors for Halloween and said it was good I was protecting myself. The cashier was a nice high schooler but was trying to figure out what was up with me, and the poor bag boy was terrified.....It was kinda funny and I explained that I was not sick, just pregnant and trying to be cautious. The boy was relieved and explained how he'd never had a flu shot before and some woman had come in the other day and as he was loading her groceries, she proceeded to tell him that all of her children were sick from the swine flu......so he was scared! We got some good laughs as we watched 2 people leave the line when they saw me.......and went to other lines and I made some jokes about how they should wear masks so no one would come through their line. So all-in-all it was a successful trip.
Sorry for the lengthy post, but thought I'd share that it's not so bad to maybe start a trend? The sexy mask?? Maybe next time I'll draw a mouth on it, so people won't seem so seriously scared!!
Thanks again PolkadotBunnies for your well-wishes.....I'll be prayin' for all us preggos out there!!
Oh wow!!! That was GREAT!!! I felt like you were an undercover reporter doing recon for all us other pregnant women and then came here to report back with the results of this experiment!!
You are AWESOME!!! I love the play by play breakdown of your day, I was curious about how it would go!! Thank you!!!
And you've inspired me-I don't plan on going out in public yet, but if and when I do, I'll wear a mask
And you know, I didn't even think about people thinking that YOU had it! Ah! I'm so glad you had such a good response to the ones you talked to though-I knew people would understand if they knew! And the ones you didn't, they kept their distance, so that's good at least
And I know exactly what you're talking about when saying that people misunderstand our concern. When some people say that they're not sure about getting the vaccine, I've heard other's say, "But the virus is dead. You won't get the since flu from it". That is not the concern. It's all the stuff they put in there ALONG WITH the dead virus.
You couldn't have described my fear about the vaccine better if you were in my head.
You know those commercials that come on that say something along the lines of, "If you had (condition) and took (medication), you may be entitled to compensation for your condition......" and "If your child was born with (condition) and you took (medication) while pregnant........"
Like you, I imagine hearing, years from now, about an ingredient that was in the first series of vaccines that they didn't know would cause some kind of condition or defect or who knows what. I mean, before they knew the effect of mercury, they had it in vaccines. It's trial and error, right? We're humans, not God. We're not going to do everything right the first time sometimes.
I'm not one of those people who's not getting the vaccine because I think there's some link to this vaccine and a secret government plan and things about scare tactics, money schemes, media, hype, etc. etc. I'm just a woman who's afraid because I'm carrying an unborn child who might get hurt from the unknown.
I just wish there was some way that we could know, for certain, what was in them. If we could just get a scientist, have him take us into a lab, show us under a microscope (or whatever device needed) every single ingredient in a preservative-free dose of the H1N1 vaccine and break it down ingredient by ingredient, telling what each does and which risk catergory each fall under and why......
I mean, I also know that if it weren't for the brilliance of a man, back in the day, who thought up vaccines, we would still be losing our children to illnesses that they have, over time, gradually wiped off the planet. I am SO THANKFUL to God for giving us the ability to discover ways, like vaccines, that have saved so many many lives.
And those thoughts make me lean toward the vaccine......and I ask myself, are we more at risk by not getting the H1N1 vaccine? What if I were to contract it and find myself hospitalized and all the while, it could have been prevented? It is everywhere, after all. Are the chances of becoming exposed to it and serious complications happening tons higher than a risk from the vaccine that could harm my baby?
Ohhhhhhh.
I am exactly where you are, Ruralgirl......SO on the fence.
I think that the VERY BEST that we can do is avoid people as much as we possibly can until we can figure this out, you know?
In the meantime, I'm still praying!
Thank you so much for your thoughts on this-I really love hearing another pregnant woman's perspective and concerns and so much like my own. I hope you stay safe and healthy and that little baby of yours keeps growing strong!!!
He or she will be here before you know it and I'm sure us Mamas will be on to the next thing to worry about for our babies
